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extorian
05-21-2009, 04:13 PM
This is a review of the "4U™ 1600 mAh Slim Extended Battery" purchased from Fommy at http://www.fommy.co.uk/view-full-page.asp?skuno=81931 (UK), or http://www.fommy.com/view-full-page.asp?skuno=81931 (US).

You will note it gets a relatively poor set of reviews on Fommy's website, but this is because most of the reviewers are NOT actually reviewing the product. Out of 13 reviews, 9 are reviewing their experiences with Fommy's website (being out of stock, etc.), haven't even purchased it, or state they haven't actually tested the battery. Only 4 are actually reviewing the product itself after actually receiving it and trying it. However, even one of those rates it less because the one he got has MORE capacity than the one he ordered! If you average the 4 real reviews then it gets 4.5 stars out of 5.

The battery is the exact same size as the standard 1150mAh battery. The website shows a different 1600mAh battery to the one that actually arrived. The one I received states it's 1700mAh on the sticker on the back of the battery. Other people reviewing the product on Fommy's website also noted this discrepancy.

Here are some pics I took of what I actually received (click for bigger versions):

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I ran the new battery through a few full charge/discharge cycles using it as I would normally to see if I actually noticed any obvious and significant improvement in its capacity over the standard battery. My initial feeling was that by the end of the day the typical power remaining was about the same as with the standard battery. Of course this is subjective... So, onto something a little more scientific...

For both batteries I fully charged them over night.

To ensure there were no outside influences, I switched off as many background apps/services as I could, turned off GPS, and activated Aeroplane mode (so Wifi, 2G, 3G, etc

are all off too). The Brightness was set to 40% just because that's what I usually have it set at. I kept the Watts app running, as this app records the battery level over time and is needed so that I can see a log of when the phone switched itself off when the battery ran out.

The morning after fully charging the battery, I started Neocore in Interactive mode, and at exactly 09:00 I unplugged the charger and left the phone alone until it switched itself off.

For those of you who don't know, Neocore is an app that shows off the 3D graphics capabilities of the G1 in an infinite loop, and it prevents the phone from sleeping. As such, it's ideal for draining the battery in a controlled manner, and would be analogous to playing a graphics intensive game on the G1 over that time.

Finally, I checked the Watts app to get the time that the phone switched off. As I'm relying on an interpretation of a graph to find the time the phone switched off, there may be an error of a few minutes either way, but not enough to significantly affect the end result.


RESULTS



Extended 1700 mAh battery lasted: 4 hours and 40 minutes.
Standard 1150 mAh battery lasted: 4 hours and 46 minutes.



As a side note, when I inserted the standard battery (which was already fully charged) after the end of the first test with the extended battery, the Watts app showed the power level on the graph at 68%, despite the phone's standby screen showing 100%. This is very interesting as if you take 1150 (the size of the standard battery) divide this by 68 (the percentage Watts showed) to give the value of 1%, and then multiply this by 100 to give the value of 100%, you get 1691, which is almost 1700 - the quoted size of the new battery.

I'll repeat the tests a few more times and I'll post back here IF any significant improvement is noticed in the extended battery after I've used it for a bit.

But, in summary, my advice would be to not bother wasting your money. If you want a true extended battery, your only real option are the ones that require a larger battery cover to accommodate them.

DrVeronica
05-21-2009, 04:17 PM
lol so it looks like a no-go for this as a spare battery

and it's a def no-go for that monster battery either

ah well, it doesn't bother me THAT much to have to plug in my phone EVERY single nite :)

good review EX

Kienz
05-21-2009, 04:25 PM
Rats! I wanted to be the first to say, "Excellent review".

Next time I switch browsers, I'll have to be sure to input my username/password information first thing, I suppose.

Nonetheless, excellent review. *leers @ Dr. V with envy*

ggrant3876
05-21-2009, 04:27 PM
I purchased th Seidio 1400 battery and have noticed about a 30% increase in the battery life. I didn't do a test like yours but it's all subjective.

DrVeronica
05-21-2009, 04:28 PM
Rats! I wanted to be the first to say, "Excellent review".

Next time I switch browsers, I'll have to be sure to input my username/password information first thing, I suppose.

Nonetheless, excellent review. *leers @ Dr. V with envy*

lol :)
just check that lil check box and you'll never get signed out ;)

deserttopping
05-21-2009, 04:33 PM
dammit, i wanted that to work.

so isn't "1600mAh" kind of...umm...a LIE, then?

dwang
05-21-2009, 04:34 PM
I purchased th Seidio 1400 battery and have noticed about a 30% increase in the battery life. I didn't do a test like yours but it's all subjective.

it has been discussed before that the 1600/1700 is fake because it is the exact same weight and size as the stock 1150.

The 1400 seidio battery is real because its heavier and slightly larger than the stock battery.

extorian
05-21-2009, 05:04 PM
Well, weight and dimensions don't dictate the capacity of the battery, although if you assume the same materials it can be a good indicator. The Seidio may just have more metal in it instead of plastic, making it heavier, for example.

Despite it being the same weight and size, it does have different characteristics as shown by the Watts app. The extended battery has a higher voltage when fully charged, but it drops more quickly.

extorian
05-21-2009, 05:09 PM
so isn't "1600mAh" kind of...umm...a LIE, then?

It depends how it's measured. If it's from brand new, over-charged and discharged relatively slowly all the way down to 0 volts, then it might have 1600. If you're talking about the capacity during normal use (i.e. with sufficient voltage to power the device), then it is remarkably similar to the stock battery in terms of capacity.

extorian
05-21-2009, 05:10 PM
ah well, it doesn't bother me THAT much to have to plug in my phone EVERY single nite :)

good review EX

Thanks. And yeah, it isn't that much hassle to plug it in every night. I used to do that with my last phone too.

SilleeString
05-21-2009, 05:54 PM
I also own the Seidio thin battery, and I got a huge increase in battery life. That's just me, though.

kizer
05-21-2009, 06:28 PM
I as well have the Seido 1400mAh battery and have noticed an increase over the factory battery. Doesn't seem to get "as hot" when you run the phone hard either.

extorian
05-21-2009, 06:40 PM
I also own the Seidio thin battery, and I got a huge increase in battery life. That's just me, though.

When you say "huge increase in battery life", and assuming it genuinely does have 1400 mAh capacity, 1400 mAh is only just under 22% more capacity over the the standard 1150 mAh battery. It's not that huge and increase. In my test above it would add around an hour of intensive use.

I'm not saying it's not worth it for some people, but I dream of the day someone will invent a battery that has the same size as the standard one, but lasts a week.

dwang
05-21-2009, 06:52 PM
yeah i basically get an extra hour. In hindsight not really worth the price. Its better to get a cheap 2nd generic battery + charger on ebay and carry that around, which I also do.




When you say "huge increase in battery life", and assuming it genuinely does have 1400 mAh capacity, 1400 mAh is only just under 22% more capacity over the the standard 1150 mAh battery. It's not that huge and increase. In my test above it would add around an hour of intensive use.

I'm not saying it's not worth it for some people, but I dream of the day someone will invent a battery that has the same size as the standard one, but lasts a week.

extorian
05-21-2009, 06:57 PM
Or those small emergency battery chargers also work very well, and are around 1/4 of the price of a standard G1 battery. The one I have takes a single AA size battery that you can buy just about anywhere, and nearly fully charges the G1 battery.

SilleeString
05-21-2009, 09:11 PM
Maybe I had a dud stock battery or something, because I can use my phone like a normal person (Twidroid, browsing, calls, texting) and not have to worry about battery life. Before, I had to curb my browsing or other things because I didn't want my battery dying by the time I got home from work.

Today, I listened to music to and from work using RockOn (about an hour and 15 minutes), had a long phone conversation, used Greed to read some articles, updated a couple of apps, etc. I unplugged my phone at roughly 8:15AM this morning. It's 9:10 now, and I have 59% left. With my old battery, I was looking at 15-20%.

I mean I guess it depends on your habits, but to me it was very worth it. Honestly, what phone does last a week, anyway? I'd be impressed by any smart phone (especially on 3G) lasting two days.

extorian
05-22-2009, 04:10 AM
T-101 models (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_%28character%29#Characteristics) can live up to 120 years with their existing power cell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell).

Do you see my dream yet? ;)

SilleeString
05-22-2009, 09:59 AM
T-101 models (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_%28character%29#Characteristics) can live up to 120 years with their existing power cell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell).

Do you see my dream yet? ;)

That would be amazing...a battery lasting longer than the phone, hahah.

You, sir, have won this one. I apologize!