Android 2.0 (aka donut) to be released in August?

[draxter]

I spotted this page at pdadb.net... maybe just a typo but who knows :)

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=os&id=a200&c=google_android_2.0

[OKC-G1]

so october it is!

[vigan8]

thats interesting, what would they add now?

[illini2011]

is this something that we will get on our g1's?

[Broo]

Donut on the original G1? probably not (at least officially from T-Mobile).

I think donut is slated for the G1 V2 (aka Bigfoot) that is to be released by T-Mobile in September.

I believe the T-Mobile roadmap also shows the original G1 as 'EOL' with the G1 V2's release.

http://www.tmotoday.com/forums/ground-zero/blog-posts-and-discussion/htc-g1-v2-android-device-revealed-codenamed-t-mobile-bi

...but are now rumors that T-Mobile may allow G1 users to upgrade to the new phone at a 'pre-order discount price':

http://www.tmotoday.com/blogs/joseph/06/19/2009/upgrade-concerns-g1-owners-arenot-concern

[texas_born]

Here we go again

[master.peterm]

Donut on the original G1? probably not (at least officially from T-Mobile).

I think donut is slated for the G1 V2 (aka Bigfoot) that is to be released by T-Mobile in September.

I believe the T-Mobile roadmap also shows the original G1 as 'EOL' with the G1 V2's release.

http://www.tmotoday.com/forums/ground-zero/blog-posts-and-discussion/htc-g1-v2-android-device-revealed-codenamed-t-mobile-bi

...but are now rumors that T-Mobile may allow G1 users to upgrade to the new phone at a 'pre-order discount price':

http://www.tmotoday.com/blogs/joseph/06/19/2009/upgrade-concerns-g1-owners-arenot-concern
Of coarse the new update would come to the G1 just like the first gen iphone got the iphone 3.0 software.

[Broo]

What I am saying is the update probably won't come from T-Mobile; there will be a community update, but T-Mobile doesn't make money by paying people to develop updates to give away for free.

I have been a 'smart phone' user for many years- and the iPhone update policy is somewhat of an oddity; If I purchased a Palm OS device or a Windows Mobile device, I would consider myself lucky if I ever got an incremental update from my carrier- say WM6.0 to WM6.1- but a full version update was unheard of.

The carriers have to spend a lot of time and money in developing/testing/deploying updates for devices; so what is their need to keep giving away free updates? Generally if the phone 'works' they stop releasing updates. If they keep providing free updates, what is the motivation for users to upgrade their phones and sign new contracts?

One other consideration is the hardware; can the G1 even support the Donut with it's current RAM/CPU? The Hero versions are very modified to even fit in the G1s memory (requiring APP2SD) and the phone isn't the most responsive...

[draxter]

I hope the Magic will get Donut :) It should... the G1 got cupcake after all. :)

[ickyfehmleh]

What I am saying is the update probably won't come from T-Mobile; there will be a community update, but T-Mobile doesn't make money by paying people to develop updates to give away for free.

I have been a 'smart phone' user for many years- and the iPhone update policy is somewhat of an oddity; If I purchased a Palm OS device or a Windows Mobile device, I would consider myself lucky if I ever got an incremental update from my carrier- say WM6.0 to WM6.1- but a full version update was unheard of.

The carriers have to spend a lot of time and money in developing/testing/deploying updates for devices; so what is their need to keep giving away free updates? Generally if the phone 'works' they stop releasing updates. If they keep providing free updates, what is the motivation for users to upgrade their phones and sign new contracts?

One other consideration is the hardware; can the G1 even support the Donut with it's current RAM/CPU? The Hero versions are very modified to even fit in the G1s memory (requiring APP2SD) and the phone isn't the most responsive...

AND SO IT BEGINS AGAIN.

Why would Google distribute ADP1 units (G1s with fancy bootloaders and a nifty back panel) to their employees if they weren't going to support it?

A good rule of thumb would be to check and see what device(s) Google is selling for developer usage. If they're still selling the ADP1 (again, that's the G1 with a fancy bootloader and nifty back panel, but the back panel doesn't give it magical hardware features), one can surmise that Google themselves are still targetting the G1; why sell it if they're not going to support it?

Please stop posting this "omg teh gee wun will nevar be supported evar!" crap and getting everyone in a tissy.

edit: Also this:


Fwiw, there is no such thing as "Android 2.0" at this point. I don't know
where in the world that has come from, but it doesn't exist. The only thing
that exists is the Donut development branch, which will be given some
as-yet-undetermined version number when it is done.


As seen here (http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/msg/3fd503ea17f4a69b).

[constellanation]

I'm more excited about the 3.1 jellybean update they are releasing at 12:01 a.m. october 14th of this year.

[ickyfehmleh]

I'm more excited about the 3.1 jellybean update they are releasing at 12:01 a.m. october 14th of this year.

Jellybean has nothing on the parfait release.

[LazyGenius]

wait i have seen this episode before! soon we will see floods of market comments, and threads stating "where is my donut?" those with patience will say "shut the hell up and be patient..."

still it wont stop.... august will come and people will look confused... there wont be comment from google... people will say, "ZOMG the g1 isnt even going to get donut... google wont give it to us... the g1 will be forgotten..." and i will say, "dumb ass! the update is for the mutha f*ckn operating system so everyone will get it!"

we will see a ton of videos about the "new" donut update further provoking the simple minded g1 owners, and driving the thread count of "where is my donut?" threads to an all time high!

people will complain how they are not happy with there current devices and how donut is the only way their phone will be fixed. we will see morons complain about how not having donut deleted their contacts or something stupid like that...

then the update will be anounced, delayed, bitched about, delayed, bitched about, delayed, bitched about, bitched about, delayed, released.

after its released OTA people will be happy for one day... then they will start threads saying, "Where is flash? my phone blows without flash!" and we start this all over again...

[constellanation]

wait i have seen this episode before! soon we will see floods of market comments, and threads stating "where is my donut?" those with patience will say "shut the hell up and be patient..."

still it wont stop.... august will come and people will look confused... there wont be comment from google... people will say, "ZOMG the g1 isnt even going to get donut... google wont give it to us... the g1 will be forgotten..." and i will say, "dumb ass! the update is for the mutha f*ckn operating system so everyone will get it!"

we will see a ton of videos about the "new" donut update further provoking the simple minded g1 owners, and driving the thread count of "where is my donut?" threads to an all time high!

people will complain how they are not happy with there current devices and how donut is the only way their phone will be fixed. we will see morons complain about how not having donut deleted their contacts or something stupid like that...

then the update will be anounced, delayed, bitched about, delayed, bitched about, delayed, bitched about, bitched about, delayed, released.

after its released OTA people will be happy for one day... then they will start threads saying, "Where is flash? my phone blows without flash!" and we start this all over again...

Ummm need a drink lazy?

And yes that is exactly what will happen, hopefully by then I'll have that new nifty samsung to distract me from that madness.

[LazyGenius]

Ummm need a drink lazy?

And yes that is exactly what will happen, hopefully by then I'll have that new nifty samsung to distract me from that madness.
lol not yet...:rolleyes:

but when all this stuff happens i want to direct people to my previous post, so they can follow it as a time line lol...:)

[mwenn1]

I just hope it has apps to sd card as the internal storage on the G1 is not enough

[extorian]

LazyGenius - that rant is so spot on exactly what will happen that I think you're from the future and have witnessed these events unfold first hand ;)

[hondamx525]

It's not going to have apps to sd. i saw it in an interview somewhere, luckily for other people newer device will have more onboard storage.

[extorian]

Anyway, if the release of cupcake was anything to go by, we might even expect Donut to be released OTA in early July (in a week or two). Consider the following:

The link provided at the start of this thread says the release date for Donut is August 1st...

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=os&id=a200&c=google_android_2.0

The same site, for Cupcake, shows the release date for Cupcake as June 1st....

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=os&id=a150&c=google_android_1.5

But, here in the UK we got Cupcake at the beginning of May - a whole month before the pdadb site says it was released.

Anyway - it'll arrive when it arrives, and all the discussion and diatribes about it on the forum won't change that date at all.

[master.peterm]

Anyway, if the release of cupcake was anything to go by, we might even expect Donut to be released OTA in early July (in a week or two). Consider the following:

The link provided at the start of this thread says the release date for Donut is August 1st...

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=os&id=a200&c=google_android_2.0

The same site, for Cupcake, shows the release date for Cupcake as June 1st....

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=os&id=a150&c=google_android_1.5

But, here in the UK we got Cupcake at the beginning of May - a whole month before the pdadb site says it was released.

Anyway - it'll arrive when it arrives, and all the discussion and diatribes about it on the forum won't change that date at all.


You would think that but he only reason that the US had to wait is because there was a security threat with the original cupcake which is why the UK had 2 updates while the Us just had when that contained both.

[extorian]

Yep - but my point is, you need to take those dates with a pinch of salt. Where did those dates actually come from? They can't have come from Google as the release date for Cupcake was early May, not June 1st as it says on that site. Unless, perhaps, Google released it early and that date was an estimate.

I appreciate the US got Cupcake later than the UK due to the security issue, but this does not negate the fact that Google still released it (probably over) a month before that website claims it was released.

[Sabbycore]

Alright guys, I was just talking to a T-mo rep just hours ago, and he told me probably not until March/April of 2010 is when we'll be seeing 2.0 aka Donut, so don't get your hopes up for August, just letting you all know.

[SilleeString]

Alright guys, I was just talking to a T-mo rep just hours ago, and he told me probably not until March/April of 2010 is when we'll be seeing 2.0 aka Donut, so don't get your hopes up for August, just letting you all know.

How is it that you get so much inside info? First it was the official Android Facebook app, and now a fairly specific timetable for Donut? All this from a T-Mo rep as well, who typically can't distinguish between his G1 and a horse's...

I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I'm just saying that if anything, you're very lucky...

[Sabbycore]

Haha! Dude I totally understand why you feel that way, in fact, the guy who originally greeted me when I got into the store was a jack off, he kept trying to talk to e about phones and was calling them "fresh" but like in a really stiff, not cool way. He also didn't know **** about the phones.

No this other guy I talked knew a hell of a lot, he had the HTC Magic on him cause he gets to test it out before the official release, and he was really cool about everything, he just pulled me aside away from everyone else so we could talk, he's like the Android rep at that store pretty much, anything Android, you talk to him, and he saw I had the G1 so he was really cool with me and answered my questions to the best of his ability.

Also like I've said before, I'm not sure if all of the information is 100% accurate, but its coming straight from a T-Mo employee so I just wanted to relay the information back to all of you guys, you know? I know your typical T-Mo employee is an airhead when it comes to phones and operating systems and what not, but this guy really seemed to know his stuff, he felt more like one of us rather than just some T-Mo guy.

[wlanguide]

So any news now? It's mid august now.

[mbreezy]

Take whatever date that "they" (because we really don't know who "they" is) say it is going to be, and just like the 1.5 release add 6 months to it and you have your update date.

Also... I get a good laugh out of people and their "Will they support the G1?!?" Of course it will be! When you buy a laptop and you want to throw another OS on there, can you? Of course. You may need to download some drivers, but sure. Same with this. Since G1 is the cornerstone for Android I'm sure you wont run into those problems. If T-Mo doesn't push the update to you, just get JF's 2.0 or something like that.

[extorian]

So any news now? It's mid august now.

Patience my dear Padawan...

Middle of August is still two and a half days away...

Even if they did release it then (it was always only a guess) it may take weeks to months before HTC QAs it, and the carriers adjust it for their own needs. And even then, a OTA rollout takes two weeks to a month so you may have to wait a few more weeks too.