Samsung I7500, or HTC Hero?

[Evert]

Hi all,

I currently have a Nokia N95 8GB, but am very interested in moving to Android.
I very much want an Android, but it should have the same/better specs as my current phone.

From the phones available now/soon, it looks like the choice has to be between the Samsung I7500 & the HTC Hero, right?

Any main reasons to go for one or the other? I am located in Norway, and I expect both units to be available here pretty soon.

[geedup]

i'm going with i7500..8gb internal memory and capable of holding a 32gb microsd...and all the samsung devices i've dealt with have excellent battery life..

[Evert]

i'm going with i7500..8gb internal memory and capable of holding a 32gb microsd...and all the samsung devices i've dealt with have excellent battery life..

I'm also leaning towards the Samsung, but more because the HTC Hero comes with lots of customizations (bloatware?), and I'd prefer the core-Android system...

[geedup]

i'm sure we'll be able to port that ui over to the android. it may take some time but its possible..

[bugmenot1]

100% Samsung I7500 it has way better specs, 8gig built in plus 32 can be added, 5mega pixel cam with flash, omled screen. it rocks

[LazyGenius]

i7500 only has 128mb of RAM though......

[geedup]

128? Ugggggh...

[Crashdamage]

The Samsung i7500 apparently only has 128MB of system RAM memory, the Hero 288MB. If really true the i7500 is totally out of the running for me. I like the Hero's looks better anyway.

If the i7500 can use a 32G card probably any Android phone can, including the G1. I can't think of any reason why not. I have a 16G in mine and I can remember when the G1 came out various spec sheets were saying 'support for up to 8G' and everyone was asking if the 16G cards would be supported. Of course, they were.


...because the HTC Hero comes with lots of customizations (bloatware?), and I'd prefer the core-Android system..
I doubt 'bloatware' is a problem at all on the Hero. We're not talkin' WinMO here. If you want a more 'basic' version of Android UI maybe you should check out the Magic.

[notxel21]

The Galaxy is now available from O2 Germany! http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/06/24/samsung-galaxy-now-available-from-o2-germany/

[gpo1]

Am interested in the samsung,but I like the sense UI. I hope they port it to samsumg?

[scrannel]

Hi all,

I currently have a Nokia N95 8GB, but am very interested in moving to Android.


Evert,

If you are moving away from the N95, check to be sure whatever Android phone you are moving to is capable of transferring data via Bluetooth (G1 will only do this if rooted); be sure you can have an onboard email application that allows you to receive and download the types of attachments you will be using (G1 will not, unless you install K9 -- does not work on all phones -- or are willing to go on your Google or server web page to retrieve attachments). G1 does not come with any sort of Office app, so you must buy one. In other words, a REAL smartphone will spoil you, the G1, at least, is not a real smartphone. Maybe the newer versions are. But... be sure it will do what you need it to do. My two cents.

[ahugo68]

i like what i see from htc hero so far. so i would go with that one

[draxter]

If you have the funds buy Hero... The samsung has only a tiny bit of RAM compared to hero and magic... hero and magic have 288mb and i7500 only 128mb. The samsung has a better battery and a more slim design... I love the looks of the hero and its UI!

[RDILLZ]

Evert,

If you are moving away from the N95, check to be sure whatever Android phone you are moving to is capable of transferring data via Bluetooth (G1 will only do this if rooted); be sure you can have an onboard email application that allows you to receive and download the types of attachments you will be using (G1 will not, unless you install K9 -- does not work on all phones -- or are willing to go on your Google or server web page to retrieve attachments). G1 does not come with any sort of Office app, so you must buy one. In other words, a REAL smartphone will spoil you, the G1, at least, is not a real smartphone. Maybe the newer versions are. But... be sure it will do what you need it to do. My two cents.


HE SAID HTC HERO OR I7500!!!He didn't say anything about the G1. But your brain instantly switch to bash the G1 mode!lol duh my 2cents...LMAO

[JHan]

It's amusing to see how everyone is going ballistic for the Hero right after they release the preview for Sense UI. Quite honestly, I feel it's a bit too early to judge, either good or bad. Personally, I'm leaning towards the Samsung i7500, for things like the slim design and the AMOLED screen. Hopefully, the 8GB of internal memory and the CPU speed can counter the deficit from the 128 RAM. And it is possible that the flashy UI on the Hero can eat away at that RAM. Regardless, I'll make an effort to hop onto whichever is released earlier stateside, as both have distinct pro's and con's.

[theway2live]

Heroooooooooooooooooooooo!

[SilleeString]

I've gotta go with Hero, myself.

[dwang]

how exactly does the 8 gig flash offset the paltry ram?

[Evert]

how exactly does the 8 gig flash offset the paltry ram?


Memory use could be an issue... Is there any data available on how the memory consumption of Android is?

[Evert]

Evert,

If you are moving away from the N95, check to be sure whatever Android phone you are moving to is capable of transferring data via Bluetooth (G1 will only do this if rooted); be sure you can have an onboard email application that allows you to receive and download the types of attachments you will be using (G1 will not, unless you install K9 -- does not work on all phones -- or are willing to go on your Google or server web page to retrieve attachments). G1 does not come with any sort of Office app, so you must buy one. In other words, a REAL smartphone will spoil you, the G1, at least, is not a real smartphone. Maybe the newer versions are. But... be sure it will do what you need it to do. My two cents.

I work as IT manager, so don't really need Office Apps. What I do need is:

PPTP VPN to get to our office systems
Remote desktop (RDC required, NX/VNC would be nice)
ActiveSync to check my email


What I like is:

the ability to listen to music via my Philips BT headset
GPS with offline maps. Navigation would be nice, but not really needed.

[konzern]

I work as IT manager, so don't really need Office Apps. What I do need is:

PPTP VPN to get to our office systems
Remote desktop (RDC required, NX/VNC would be nice)
ActiveSync to check my email


What I like is:

the ability to listen to music via my Philips BT headset
GPS with offline maps. Navigation would be nice, but not really needed.


stereo bluetooth on the g1 is very choppy maybe it will be improved on these new handsets

i dont think the default maps works offline but i think there is apps that do like andnav2

[Evert]

i dont think the default maps works offline but i think there is apps that do like andnav2

I was afraid of that. It's not easy to beat what you get with the Nokia's: free world-wide maps and unlimited updates... :rolleyes:

[JHan]

how exactly does the 8 gig flash offset the paltry ram?

Well, assuming that the basic workings of a smart phone are comparable to that of a computer, the internal memory can be used as virtual memory to partially offset the lack of RAM. Also, these 8 gigs of internal memory can be used to store apps and whatnot. Sure, you can root and place those on a SD card, but depending on the speed class of the card, performance could be hindered yet again, as compared to saving those apps directly on the flash memory and leaving it there. Lastly, it seems beneficial to have more room on the inherent memory for uses such as temporary files and whatnot.

[Crashdamage]

Well, assuming that the basic workings of a smart phone are comparable to that of a computer, the internal memory can be used as virtual memory to partially offset the lack of RAM. Also, these 8 gigs of internal memory can be used to store apps and whatnot. Sure, you can root and place those on a SD card, but depending on the speed class of the card, performance could be hindered yet again, as compared to saving those apps directly on the flash memory and leaving it there. Lastly, it seems beneficial to have more room on the inherent memory for uses such as temporary files and whatnot.
Part of the i7500s' 8G storage could theoretically be used for a /swap, but that would require partitioning of the space and some work on the Android OS. Really not simple or practical. It's much better to simply include more RAM in the first place. IMHO 128MB ain't gonna get it done.

The only real advantage I can see to the 8G internal storage is I guess you'd never have to worry about running out of app space. But the MyTouch and Hero have 512MB and that should be plenty for anyone. New apps and updated versions always seem to have a way of growing though. Bloat never sleeps...I suppose in a couple of years even 512MB could get to be minimal.

Still, for the 128MB RAM puts the i7500 out of contention for my next phone.

[bjb_nyj101]

Does anyone have a source where it shows that the i7500 only has 128MB RAM?

[Crashdamage]

Google 'i7500 specifications' and you'll find plenty.

[dwang]

Its already possible to use a swap file/partition on an android device. And quite easy if you have root.

In fact I'm running a 16meg swap partition on my g1. its no replacement for more RAM, but it helps with the browser refresh issue and doesn't noticeably slow down my phone.

I posted instructions on xda dev.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4029519&postcount=145




Part of the i7500s' 8G storage could theoretically be used for a /swap, but that would require partitioning of the space and some work on the Android OS. Really not simple or practical. It's much better to simply include more RAM in the first place. IMHO 128MB ain't gonna get it done.

The only real advantage I can see to the 8G internal storage is I guess you'd never have to worry about running out of app space. But the MyTouch and Hero have 512MB and that should be plenty for anyone. New apps and updated versions always seem to have a way of growing though. Bloat never sleeps...I suppose in a couple of years even 512MB could get to be minimal.

Still, for the 128MB RAM puts the i7500 out of contention for my next phone.

[Crashdamage]

That's pretty cool, I didn't realize you could setup a /swap already. Does the phone really need/use it? Seems like accessing a /swap on a SD card would slow things down enough to notice. But maybe not with a fast #6 card...

But like you say, a /swap file is no substitute for plenty of RAM.

[ghettoyungin718]

Its already possible to use a swap file/partition on an android device. And quite easy if you have root.

In fact I'm running a 16meg swap partition on my g1. its no replacement for more RAM, but it helps with the browser refresh issue and doesn't noticeably slow down my phone.

I posted instructions on xda dev.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4029519&postcount=145

is there anyway to do this with the terminal ?

[dwang]

is there anyway to do this with the terminal ?

Once you create the partition with gparted live, you can use the terminal to run the commands.

[dwang]

That's pretty cool, I didn't realize you could setup a /swap already. Does the phone really need/use it? Seems like accessing a /swap on a SD card would slow things down enough to notice. But maybe not with a fast #6 card...

But like you say, a /swap file is no substitute for plenty of RAM.

Likie I said, it helps with the browser refresh issue that everybody complains about.

You can open a couple of pages, go to another app, and then back to the browser without it having to refresh all the pages.

[ohmarni]

I work as IT manager, so don't really need Office Apps. What I do need is:

PPTP VPN to get to our office systems
Remote desktop (RDC required, NX/VNC would be nice)
ActiveSync to check my email


What I like is:

the ability to listen to music via my Philips BT headset
GPS with offline maps. Navigation would be nice, but not really needed.


Evert,

I bought Exchange by TouchDown for $25 and CoPilot Live GPS for $35. I am able to check my Outlook email with my company using TouchDown. Also gets my contacts, appointments and tasks. I like this because it keeps my work contacts separate from my personal contacts. However, there is an option to copy your Outlook contacts to your phone contacts. Love this program. Just bought CoPilot. Like the program. Works. Wish it had the Voice Command like Telenav and announced the streets like Telenav, but alas, this is not available for Android phones. Hopefully, I'll see an update soon. The maps are downloaded via a WiFi connection directly to your phone. Unfortunately, CoPilot Central is not available for Android right now. Coming soon...supposedly. If it was, you could download the maps to your computer and then transfer to your phone. The Central site at http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/central/ shows a pic of the Hero, so hopefully by the time we see the i7500 or Hero, Central will be up.

[ohmarni]

I'll end up going with whichever one T-mo gets, if either. I'm hoping for the Samsung, just because I want the 8GB of storage. I'll lose the trackball and physical keyboard I have with my G1, but I'll live with it for the extra storage, the AMOLED display and the 5MP camera WITH flash. However, if T-mo should get the Hero instead, I will probably go with that one. I know it has that beautiful UI, but I'm just not as excited about that one. With Android phones, an upgrade is all about the hardware to me. I hope I can live with 128MB of RAM. My G1 has 192. It looks pretty zippy in the demos I've seen though.

[BatterseaBob]

Seems like alot of people are having the same problems deciding.

I really want to want the i7500, but that low RAM could mean the same for me as everybody else in that it sways me to the Hero.

From reading a few blogs and forums about the leaked Hero ROM running on a G1 it sounds like the flash implementation is a bit of a memory hog. Now obviously the ROM needs some tweaking for the G1, but even so that has 192MB and I have heard talk of memory issues (could just be a crappy build though as the leaked ROM isn't gold).

Its a shame because the camera flash, 8GB onboard memory and the sweet screen on i7500 all sounded pretty good.

The only extras I could see with the Hero are the compass and the Sense UI. Really not that fussed about having the compass (yes I know all of the supposedly cool things you can do with it). And the sense UI will be ported within days of the Hero release.

Might have to control my gadget lust and see what real world performance is like first.

[JHan]

Seems like alot of people are having the same problems deciding.

I really want to want the i7500, but that low RAM could mean the same for me as everybody else in that it sways me to the Hero.

From reading a few blogs and forums about the leaked Hero ROM running on a G1 it sounds like the flash implementation is a bit of a memory hog. Now obviously the ROM needs some tweaking for the G1, but even so that has 192MB and I have heard talk of memory issues (could just be a crappy build though as the leaked ROM isn't gold).

Its a shame because the camera flash, 8GB onboard memory and the sweet screen on i7500 all sounded pretty good.

The only extras I could see with the Hero are the compass and the Sense UI. Really not that fussed about having the compass (yes I know all of the supposedly cool things you can do with it). And the sense UI will be ported within days of the Hero release.

Might have to control my gadget lust and see what real world performance is like first.

Well, actually, it appears that the Samsung i7500 will have a compass, at least, according to a French press release acquired and then translated over at Phandroid. Read up on it if you like.

http://phandroid.com/2009/05/18/samsung-galaxy-the-i7500-in-france/

[dandv]

Unfortunately, CoPilot Central is not available for Android right now. Coming soon...supposedly.

From http://www.alk.com/copilot/android/default.asp :


And now CoPilot Live is available for GPS-enabled Android phones.

AndNav2 works with offline maps, but its storage model requires HUGE amounts of space - 4GB for the Los Angeles area alone (http://wiki.andnav.org/index.php/Talk:MapTilePacks#4_GB_for_the_Los_Angeles_area.3F .21_When_the_entire_planet_OpenStreetMap_is_2.2GB. 3F).

For GPS navigation, I would check the free open-source Navit (http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Main_Page). It seems to run on Android (http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Navit_on_Android) as well.

[dandv]

Well, actually, it appears that the Samsung i7500 will have a compass

Samsung's official pages for the Danish (http://www.samsung.com/dk/consumer/detail/productPreviewRead.do?model_cd=GT-I7500OKAXEE), Finnish (http://www.samsung.com/fi/consumer/detail/spec.do?group=mobilephonemp3&type=mobilephonemp3&subtype=mobilephones&model_cd=GT-I7500OKAXEE&fullspec=F), Norwegian (http://www.samsung.com/no/consumer/detail/productPreviewRead.do?model_cd=GT-I7500OKAXEE) and Swedish (http://www.samsung.com/se/consumer/detail/spec.do?group=mobilephonemp3&type=mobilephonemp3&subtype=mobilephones&model_cd=GT-I7500OKAXEE) versions all mention the compass (search for "ompass").

[Abaddon]

I really want to want the i7500, but that low RAM could mean the same for me as everybody else in that it sways me to the Hero.

Seems like the 128mb of RAM on the Galaxy wasn't quite accurate. The Samsung Galaxy's official Italian facebook page is reporting it has 192mb for applications. Not sure if that means it has 192mb for apps plus extra or what, but here's the source (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsung-Galaxy/195692205014?v=feed&story_fbid=99570701106). Also I've seen mention on other forums that the Galaxy has turned up in O2 UK's July buyers guide and is set for release on the 27th.

[Evert]

Hmm, I am looking forward to the first reviews on how the thing works with whatever amount of memory onboard. Just because it's less than what the HTC Hero has, does not mean it's not enough... 8-)

[Evert]

...and I am also looking forward to a screen comparison. Is the AMOLED of the Samsung really so much better than the Hero-screen?

[techboi]

The AMOLED display on te galaxy looks wonderful but I am in love with the UI on the Hero. Hero all the ay for me

[Evert]

Hmm, I am sure someone figures out how to port that HTC Hero interface to the Galaxy, or perhaps someone comes up with an even better GUI. But porting the AMOLED screen to the HTC Hero is not gonna happen... ;-)

[Bung]

Hey Evret,

Hate to leach off you, I know everyone is busy, but if you are searching for those comparisons or find out any information on how it actually /runs/ with 128mb (not just people being scared about smaller numbers) please let us know.

For the screen comparison isnt it like 65000 vs 16000000 colors? But Samsung is still good with battery life? I dont mind charging it every night really...

Thanks,
Bung

EDIT: "Although both have a 3.2" 320x480 screen, the AMOLED really makes a lot of difference in the display, it is bright and has better contrast too." --- they're talking about the magic, but the hero has the same screen -- http://www.ocworkbench.com/2009/samsung/Samsung-i7500-Android-Phone-Preview/p1.htm

[Evert]

Looks like the (white) Hero will hit the streets here in Norway before the month is over. No word on the Samsung I7500 yet though... :-/

[draxter]

Here in the Netherlands the Hero is out since yesterday. I would definately get the Hero if you can pay it. The Hero is a HTC, the Galaxy is a Samsung... the Hero will definately have better hacking support because we have XDA... samsung's first android phone will most probably not be introduced on XDA as it's no HTC ;)

Besides, the Hero has MUCH more RAM Sam: 128 Hero: 228. The Sam has a better screen, cam and battery life but will also be a lot slower than the Hero because of the looooow amount of RAM.

[Evert]

Hmm, Nederland is altijd ietsje voor op Noorwegen ;-)

I am sure that when the Samsung gets popular enough there will be growing hacking support for it... ;-)

Yes, the Hero has more memory... But does it need it? I've already read on various sites that its GUI is a bit slow at times, so more RAM is not always the answer...

And what about upgrades? Since it's not regular Android, you're limited to HTC (or hackers) for updates... The Samsung runs regular Android, so all you need is to go to the Android site...

Better screen, better cam & better battery life are good arguments for me to favor the Samsung... 8-)

[qtba]

Besides, the Hero has MUCH more RAM Sam: 128 Hero: 228. The Sam has a better screen, cam and battery life but will also be a lot slower than the Hero because of the looooow amount of RAM.

Actually, the Galaxy has 192Mb of RAM, so Hero doesn't have much advantage in RAM after all. Forumlink (http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/6393-128-mb-ram-really.html), source (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsung-Galaxy/195692205014?v=feed&story_fbid=99570701106), confirmation (http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/6393-128-mb-ram-really.html#post40286). I am going for the Galaxy, because it doesn't have a weird looking chin :) (and for the AMOLED screen, ofc)

And the phone looks everything but slow in the youtube posts. That's a good enough confirmation for me - not just on paper, but in practice.

[Evert]

Does anyone have an official Samsung link which confirms RAM=192?

[qtba]

The Editor in Chief of theunwired.net got a official confirmation from Samsung, that it has 192Mb of memory: 128 MB of available device RAM plus 64 MB of Qualcomm chip RAM, the same as G1 has. Source #20 (http://www.theunwired.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8286&p=2)

And does it even matter if it doesn't have as much as Hero? Have you watched the videos on youtube? Everything is smooth as a... well you know :)

[Evert]

Hmm, what is the difference between device RAM & Qualcomm chip RAM?

[zenderady]

Had the same dilemma.. which one to get.. the galaxy or the hero. In the end after thinking of what I want from my phone I went for the galaxy

My review in a few words: it's preaty fast.. no OS hickups no nothing.. very smooth.. has every thing that I want and never felt there was a lack of ram or something..

And yeah it's preaty bad that FOR NOW the XDA do not support the galaxy.. they don't know what they're missing.

If you have questions go ahead and ask

btw the battery lasts 3-4 days with normal use

[Casey Rain]

FOR NOW the XDA do not support the galaxy.. they don't know what they're missing.


I wouldn't expect this to change. XDA is a forum for HTC phones and no others.

[jehlinger]

I bought an i7500 this weekend from someone in Germany (eBay) so hopefully I'll have it by the end of the week. Will post a short review.

Cheers

[Evert]

I bought an i7500 this weekend from someone in Germany (eBay) so hopefully I'll have it by the end of the week. Will post a short review.

Cheers

Hmm, a bit to risky for me... I think I'll wait until they hit the market here in Norway. The latest I heard was that that will be in September...

[JaysonG]

I'm going for the i7500 can't say no to the AMOLED Screen.

[infz]

I was also thinking between the two. I think I'll go with the Hero just because there's more ram, bettar hacking support (i love xda-dev) and the awesome UI.

Now I just have to get rid of the must-have-feeling for the iPhone 3GS

[tarekag]

a stupid question here.. A friend of mine is buying me the samsun i7500, the box says samsung GT-I7500.. they are the same right?? (I think they are).

While we are at it:
[LIST]
- Does it support T-mobile 3G in the US
- I have a T-mobile sim card in it, would it update OTA
- If I MOD it and get UI sense onto my samsung; Would it support multi-touch, Would it work slow (I have only heard speculations about this last one, no one said something out of actual experience.. so.. )

[kam187]

Hmm, what is the difference between device RAM & Qualcomm chip RAM?

The Qualcomm 7200A (the app processor) has 64mb RAM built into the chip. Then Samsung add 128mb external ram to supliment it.

This is why you see odd numbers like 192 (128 external + 64 internal), 288 (256 external + 32 internal).

There's no actual difference between the two, they are used the same way.


a stupid question here.. A friend of mine is buying me the samsun i7500, the box says samsung GT-I7500.. they are the same right?? (I think they are).


The full model name is Samsung GT-I7500, and its nickname is galaxy. So yeah thats the right model. Mine has the same :)



While we are at it:
[LIST]
- Does it support T-mobile 3G in the US


Yes it supports 900, 1700 and 2100 for UMTS so it will work with T-Mobile US for 3G, but not for AT&T's 3G.



- I have a T-mobile sim card in it, would it update OTA


The Samsung doesn't update OTA. You have to update it through PC Suite.



- If I MOD it and get UI sense onto my samsung; Would it support multi-touch, Would it work slow (I have only heard speculations about this last one, no one said something out of actual experience.. so.. )

The UI is called 'rosie'. There is an apk in the Hero rom you can extract and probably install onto the samsung. BUT Rosie also requires a bunch of frameworks which i think people call MT. The Samsung only has 192mb ram (288mb for the Hero), so it would probably leave you with very little RAM left.

The way they get around this on other HTC phones is to enable a swap file (virtual memory) on the SD card. The samsung kernel doesnt have swapping enabled so we can't do the same on the samsung.

I think samsung will eventually enable swapping as android gets bigger, but right now there isnt much we can do.

BTW when you get it DO NOT update its firmware, the new firmware causes random reboots! We're waiting for samsung to fix it :)

[lordyosch]

My last phone was a Nokia n95 and I gave up on it because it was terrible. I've gone hero and I love it. its not perfect but it is great.

I've no experience of the Samsung in question but my wife has a tocco ultra. I hope the android phone has a better touchscreen. The tocco is appalling.


Jay

[Evert]

My last phone was a Nokia n95 and I gave up on it because it was terrible. I've gone hero and I love it. its not perfect but it is great.

I've no experience of the Samsung in question but my wife has a tocco ultra. I hope the android phone has a better touchscreen. The tocco is appalling.


Jay

My current phone is a Nokia N95 and I love it. Considering to upgrade to a I7500 though... ;-)

[Crashdamage]

...the samsung i7500...the samsung GT-I7500.. they are the same right??
Don't hold me to it, but I think so, yes. You might do some Googling on that, there might be a difference in RAM. Or maybe color?

Does it support T-mobile 3G in the USNo.

...a T-mobile sim card in it, would it update OTANo.
Others here can give a better answer than me on the Sense UI stuff.

[kam187]

a stupid question here.. A friend of mine is buying me the samsun i7500, the box says samsung GT-I7500.. they are the same right?? (I think they are).

While we are at it:
[LIST]
- Does it support T-mobile 3G in the US
- I have a T-mobile sim card in it, would it update OTA
- If I MOD it and get UI sense onto my samsung; Would it support multi-touch, Would it work slow (I have only heard speculations about this last one, no one said something out of actual experience.. so.. )

I answered your questions in more detail but it went into moderation. I guess it'll be approved eventually. In Short..

- The full model number is Samsung GT-i7500. The nickname is Galaxy. So yes that's the right one. I have the same written on my box
- Yes it supports 1700Mhz 3g so t-mobile US is fine. It won't work on AT&T 3G tho
- There's no OTA firmware update for samsung, you update using pc suite through your PC
- The UI is called rossie, and needs some extra frameworks. The samsung only has 192mb ram, Hero has 288mb. If you did install it you'd probably run low on memory. Right now the samsung kernel doesnt have swap file support enabled either.

[Crashdamage]

- Yes it supports 1700Mhz 3g so t-mobile US is fine. It won't work on AT&T 3G tho
Dang...you're right. Sorry for the misinformation...I gotta be more careful.

[kam187]

Dang...you're right. Sorry for the misinformation...I gotta be more careful.

Hehe it would be worse if it didn't support 1700Mhz and we told him it did!
:eek:

[damuffinman]

It seems rather strange that the European and Asian models has AWS 3G along with the usual 3G bands, given that no European or Asian countries use AWS frequencies for 3G

[kam187]

The Baseband supports alot of bands out of the box. My best guess is that they build an antenna for the bands they _need_, and then test it on other bands too. If its acceptable (Meets SARS, has ok reception) then they enable those too.

[Deathwish238]

How fast is the i7500? The biggest problem with all the android phones is too slow of a cpu compared to the 3gs and pre.

[Evert]

The biggest problem with all the android phones is too slow of a cpu compared to the 3gs and pre.


That's like comparing apples and pears... They run different OS'es, so they don't need similar CPU's to give similar performance... :cool:

[adamtudor]

Don't they both have the same insides anyway? Apart from the fact the galaxy has less ram. However the Galaxy should run faster as it won't have the htc front end, however this is being speeded up in the next month or so with a firmware update.

[kam187]

The new Samsung firmware (dated 2nd august as the build date) seems to have made a dramatic speed difference. There's also now over 40mb ram free.