unrooting for dummies? lol

[DrVeronica]

Hi Gang,

Very shortly (as in, less than 24 hours) my "new" scratch-free G1 arrives...and I need to unroot my current phone!

I'm running cyanogen with his recovery, haykuro's SPL, and the updated radio (from WAY back when).


I found this page for the dream file: http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/Unroot

I found this page for the original SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860

Are these the most appropriate files for me to utilize?


Do I flash the old SPL first before I flash the dream file? Then what about the radio? And the recovery image?

I'm freaking out a bit here :eek: but thanks in advance for your (whoever) helps.

[djunio]

Radio first then spl then dreaming, heres all the links you need to get back stock.

http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/downloads/list?q=label:SPL

http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=OTA_Updates#Cupcake_1.5

[DrVeronica]

I may be blind but I don't see the original radio file in these links

[DrVeronica]

Is this fine?

http://developer.htc.com/adp.html


Android 1.0 Radio Image ota-radio-1_22_12_29.zip (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)


I also noticed on that above page a link for and 1.0 system image....do I need to flash that as well??

Thanks again :)

[crazythunder]

like djunio said.... http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/Unroot

[DrVeronica]

hey that's *my* link I provided there CT


and nice to see you :)

[crazythunder]

hey that's *my* link I provided there CT


and nice to see you :)
i would think you could do this stuff in your sleep by now. :D

[djunio]

Your right, its not there but its in your first post so I didn't include it.

[DrVeronica]

I would too BUT it came down to confidence....and I wanna TOTALLY MAKE SURE I'm not gonna **** myself up here :)

It has been what, 7 months since I rooted the "hardcore way"....now we can use a one-click method to root?!

How times have changed...

:)

[DrVeronica]

Your right, its not there but its in your first post so I didn't include it.


k, then I'm good to go

thanks again :)

[djunio]

k, then I'm good to go

thanks again :)

anytime:cool:

[simms22]

**yawwwwn**

[DrVeronica]

go to bed!

[simms22]

go to bed!

not sleepy , bored :D
I thought there was going to be something exiting in this thread . Like , your phone just started a countdown as is threatening to blow up the whole block . But alas, everything is under control here . ;)

[*susan*]

Simms, would you like us to create some sort of excitement for you? We can always try and drum something up.

[simms22]

Simms, would you like us to create some sort of excitement for you? We can always try and drum something up.

you would do that for me ???
sweeeeet ! :p

[*susan*]

That is my job, to keep everyone happy!

[DrVeronica]

alright so I put the radio update on my sdcard, flashed it, and now my phone is hanging at the G1 screen, and has been for about 20 mins. now...

help! :(

[djunio]

alright so I put the radio update on my sdcard, flashed it, and now my phone is hanging at the G1 screen, and has been for about 20 mins. now...

help! :(

Are you still stuck?

[DrVeronica]

yes I'm still stuck.

no matter what I do, I am stuck.

[djunio]

yes I'm still stuck.

no matter what I do, I am stuck.

Try flashing back to the newest radio, then flashing the orig spl then flash dreaming

[DrVeronica]

My phone isn't responding to camera + power, home + power, NOTHING......I flashed the radio first, like I was told, and I'm still stuck........


I am up $hit's creek here.............or would be taking a gamble handing back a somewhat rooted phone..................

[djunio]

If its stuck that's far as they gonna go, they might not even check it but we probably can get it unbricked, put your card in the card reader, go to the adb u mentioned earlier then put them 3 files in the root of your phone, plug it n the usb while its hanging try to adb remount it.

[djunio]

Also if you have linux or paragon erase your ext, deleting it might be good as well.

[DrVeronica]

if I put all 3 files on there, aren't they supposed to be renamed to "update" ?

[djunio]

yes, can you adb remount while its on the G1 screen, did you try to boot without the card in the phone.

[DrVeronica]

I'm at another location right now, and am getting ready to download the sdk so I can do this...........I dump all "tools" files into an "android" folder, correct? I haven't messed with this stuff in MONTHS.

[djunio]

I'm at another location right now, and am getting ready to download the sdk so I can do this...........I dump all "tools" files into an "android" folder, correct? I haven't messed with this stuff in MONTHS.

no, leave the sdk on the desktop, tools should be in the sdk folder

[DrVeronica]

then do I need the sdk to even do this? can't I just open c prompt and remount then?

[djunio]

Not if you can use adb already.

[DrVeronica]

yeah I opened up c prompt and adb ain't working, lol

[djunio]

My bad lol, to use adb you need to navigate to the tools folder in the sdk first.

[DrVeronica]

I could have sworn I'm supposed to dump the sdk tools into my "android" folder on my c drive, lol

damn I am so RUSTY, and I wish I had my laptop with me :( this would be somewhat easier.......

[djunio]

You can if you want, it really doesn't make a difference where it is long as you can navigate to it from c prompt.

[DrVeronica]

yes, can you adb remount while its on the G1 screen, did you try to boot without the card in the phone.


at home, on my laptop where I've always used adb, and I get the following message:

error: device not found

:(

[simms22]

if you do try for a replacement again , tell them that you got the donut update and its been like that since . alway works at update time !

[DrVeronica]

nah this is happening to the phone I'm trying to turn IN, lol

[simms22]

tell them you just got the update anyways !

[DrVeronica]

it doesn't matter, I already told 'em a couple of days ago the phone was giving me the troubles

:)

me still no like to take chances!! unless it's with a slot machine ;)

[DrVeronica]

djunio, where are thou :(

[djunio]

djunio, where are thou :(

yes, um here now

[DrVeronica]

hi! ok I did what you said last night, about taking the card out, turning on the phone, and trying to remount it on adb...is that the correct order of things? I did, and well, nothing happened, no remount :(

[djunio]

did u keep trying while it was on the g1 screen?

[DrVeronica]

yes, and I will try again

[djunio]

do u have a functioning g1 to see if that can mount

[DrVeronica]

error: device not found

:(

[djunio]

all your drivers good, its a long shot but i mount my g1 while its on that screen all the time, but um not bricked lol

[djunio]

did u try booting while holdn the down volume button+power

[DrVeronica]

do u have a functioning g1 to see if that can mount

I shall check, phone is starting up (the working phone)

[djunio]

what os u using

[DrVeronica]

I'm supposed to type:

cd c:\android
adb remount

correct?

[djunio]

I'm supposed to type:

cd c:\android
adb remount

correct?

nope, where ever u put the sdk, so if its in the android folder it

cd c:\android\sdk\tools
adb remount

[DrVeronica]

yeah, I had dumped those tools in my android folder

[djunio]

is adb.exe in there

[DrVeronica]

yes it is, and I'm on windows vista (I just saw that you asked that earlier)

[djunio]

is it 64 bit?

[DrVeronica]

alright, I just noticed something about my driver I'm supposed to be using for my android device......brb

[djunio]

ok...........

[DrVeronica]

does it matter that my x86 is from 1.5? Or should I be downloading 1.6 now, lol

[DrVeronica]

Ok, the phone that is working, will not adb remount. The phone is pointing to the x86 driver, which is in my sdk folder on my c drive

[djunio]

do u got the box checked for debugging in settings/application/development

[DrVeronica]

Yes, the first thing I checked.

[djunio]

is a copy of AdbWinApi.dll and adb.exe in your C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder?

[DrVeronica]

No, neither!

[djunio]

u cant adb until they r there

[DrVeronica]

well that's so odd.....I don't ever recall having to put those two files in my systems folder................ok so they've been moved into systems

[djunio]

can u adb now

[DrVeronica]

ok, the device still can't be recognized...

I'm at device manager, I see my htc phone, I select update driver, I point it to:

C:\android-sdk-windows-1.6_r1\android-sdk-windows-1.6_r1\usb_driver\i386

I'm told, "The best driver software for your device is already installed...Windows has determined the driver software for your device is up to date..."

Attached is a small disk drive icon with the "disk drive" next to it

grrrrr :mad face:

[djunio]

the real test is to see if it recognize it in fastboot mode but first c if u can adb remount it

[DrVeronica]

it's not :( again, I don't think my stuff is set up right in device manager :(

[djunio]

try this driver http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/usb_driver_updated.zip

[djunio]

do let windows find it, browse to it

[DrVeronica]

windows is treating my phone like a usb storage device

[djunio]

can u adb remount it?

[DrVeronica]

Alright, I'm in Device Manager, I see my my phone under "disk drives", with "usb device" attached with it.

I select "update driver software"

Browse my computer for driver software.

Here, I messed with 2 options

A) Search for driver software in this location --> so I directed it to that download on my comp, and I get:

"The best driver software is already installed..." same crap as before, with that disk drive message at the bottom


B) If I pick "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer", I click on "have disk" and point to, again, that driver I just downloaded, and I'm told,

"The folder you specified doesn't contain a compatible software driver for your device..."

[djunio]

dont click on have disk, u have to browse to wherever u put it

[djunio]

i have to go, ill be baclk later, if u get adb working on the fixed phone reboot it n c if u can adb remount it while its on the g1 screen, if u can flash the orig spl and radio from adb, these links should help u

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
http://developer.htc.com/adp.html

[DrVeronica]

Yes, and when I click browse, then next, a popup comes up and says, "the best driver software for your device is already installed"...it's like I can't override THAT!!!1


ok, thanks for your help :) I'll be around, trying to monkey with this

[djunio]

uninstall it

[DrVeronica]

Did that!!

Now here's what I noticed..............I had copies of "htc android" and "htc dream"....

"htc dream" was marked already as ADB (that was my previous phone), hence why I uh, COULD use adb in the past with such ease and no problems.

THIS phone, the new one, was being read as "htc android", so I uninstalled EVERYTHING of htc android, reinstalled for adb, and VOILA, I CAN NOW USE ADB AGAIN.

Sheesh, this was WAY freaking harder than rooting my phone the old school way months ago.....but all it took was 2 brains working, thanks djunio :)


So now adb works (at least for th new phone), and I'm gonna mess with the old one and see if I can remount that one....

[DrVeronica]

ok :(

old phone on, no sdcard in, on G1 screen, and adb reports no device found :(

[djunio]

ok, put your workn phone in fastboot mode and see if you can c it in your device manager

[DrVeronica]

the rainbow screen? lmao

[djunio]

i havent seen it n so long i dont know how it look lol, the one where u power on while holdn the cam button

[DrVeronica]

yeah I got that going now, it's the screen you would see when using fastboot

and I DON'T see my phone in device manager

[djunio]

ok, we need to get it 2 c it n fastboot mode, do u c the yello triangle or nothn at all, it should say android something near mass storage

[DrVeronica]

nothing, no mass storage pop up nothing!

[djunio]

correction, under adb devices in device manager

[DrVeronica]

I don't even see "adb devices"

[djunio]

that may b our way of getting un unbricked, but im currently have a brain fart, i think u need to install that driver i gave u but there has been a new development at the xda, some guy claims he unbricked, um bout to post what he did here

[djunio]

I have the Rogers HTC Dream which I bricked this morning.

It got to the state where holding camera + power did not bring up the fastboot menu, and holding home+power did not bring up the recovery menu. All I got was the dreaded Rogers logo.

1) Take out the battery and unplug the USB cable and wait 20 seconds
2) plug in the USB cable
3) The second you insert the battery your phone will automatically turn itself on. Therefore hold the camera button down while putting in the battery.
4) The phone should start up (again a black screen + Rogers logo) and you should see a red box in the top left corner saying "FAST USB"
5) The phone appears frozen, but now you can use ADP to send it a recovery.img.
Code:
fastboot boot recovery.img
For me I installed the recovery.img from "Haykuro's initial root kit" available in step 4 of this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...73#post4280573 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4280573#post4280573)
6) After the fastboot command is finished your phone should automatically reset, and enter the Cyanogen recovery menu.
7) Now install the custom ROM as before



EDIT: After following these steps, I can now start my phone using CAMERA + POWER to get into the fastboot menu just like before I bricked my phone.
EDIT #2: I am currently running my phone with the cyanogen 4.1.999 ROM, so everything worked out for me in the end. I should probably mention that I did not "brick" my phone by flashing a new SPL while still running an older radio.img, so Im not sure how far this method will get some of you.

[DrVeronica]

ok but right now my computer isn't recognizing even my working phone while it's in fastboot mode :(

[djunio]

try whats in my second post first, we'll work on that next

[DrVeronica]

ok I'll do it now, brb soon

[DrVeronica]

:( *sniff*

[djunio]

nothn, did u take out your batt, then put it back n while usb plugged n and you holdn the cam button

[DrVeronica]

yes, and my finger hurts, bad :( gonna try it again

[djunio]

ok, last thing we can try, get your computer to c your phone while n fastboot, plug it, get it n fastboot, scan for new devices

[DrVeronica]

dammmmmmmmmmmmmn it :( christ!

[djunio]

still nothn

[DrVeronica]

ok got it in fastboot, plugged in, scan for hardware changes, no changes :(

[djunio]

i guess this is the brick wall, no pun intended lol, theres nothing you can do unless u have a Jtag cable with the proper software, i dont think they are gonna dig n c if u r rooted

[djunio]

can u adb you working phone while its on the g1 screen, u may have to try a bunch of times, i do it all the time

[DrVeronica]

yeah, it would kinda suck if they did and then I'd see an extra $100 charge, lol

[DrVeronica]

yeah I got my working phone plugged in now, fastboot on, adb remounted about 15 times, no dice

how is it that it can remount when the phones on but not when in fastboot/recovery?

[djunio]

that would b some bs but i have yet to hear of someone who was bricked that got charged, i think they are too lazy to unbrick it and they have too many n stock to care but they can unbrick it if they get it back to htc

[DrVeronica]

yeah I've come across a few people who turned in bricked phones, one I know personally, and he has yet to be charged anything

I'm still a bit perplexed that this happen!! and it was right when I flashed the damn radio, not EVEN messing around with the spl!

[djunio]

now that i think of the logistics of what bricks you while flashing the spl, it make sense to me now, your bricked because the new spl doesnt work with an old radio, so when u flashed it thats what caused it because the spl was still there.

the old spl can use any radio but the new one only works with the new radio

[DrVeronica]

now why couldn't this have been figured out prior to me being told to flash the old radio first


...........................................

[djunio]

was thinking i guess, we was always told radio then spl or u will b bricked, we need new rules for unrooting, spl first unless youll b bricked

[DrVeronica]

yeah I'm not really worried about it.... they did stress that if the dot was red or the lcd was broken I'd get charged, lol but that's something that can be so easily seen