Help picking a Tmo Android Phone

[Dendore]

So, I am looking for a phone that is basically a small computer. And the android OS is VERY appealing. I am looking forward to joining the android community but I think there are a couple things I want to see added before I do. Through my searches I found this:

HTC Touch HD 2 With Android? | Android Phone Fans (http://phandroid.com/2009/09/04/htc-touch-hd-2-with-android/)

I really like the looks of the HTC Touch HD. Do not want WinMo obviously though. So the idea of an android powered one that looks exactly the same makes my pants a little tight.

Heres are 10 very important things I am looking for in a phone... any suggestions, estimates to how long it may take to come out, comparisons... comments in general are very welcome:



Looks - Sleek looks. Similar to HTC touch hd would be great
Android 2.0 - This is coming out now and as I won't be buying a phone right away this shouldnt be an issue.
Touchscreen - Capacitive preferred. this is the more responsive one right? Definately want a really nice touchscreen... In fact I want strictly a full touchscreen. No flip out keyboard. Decent sceen size... somewhere between the mytouch and the bb storm/touch hd (not sure which is bigger) would be nice.
Power - I want it to FEEL like a computer. Good amount of internal memory. Minimum of 600 mhz processor. Would prefer the new 1ghz snapdragon I've read about.
Flash/Javascript support - in line with it feeling like a computer, i want a complete web browsing experience. I want a fully capable browser built in or perhaps like a firefox lite downloadable. I want my phone to be able to supprot ALL websites without the use of apps.... Hulu and espn.com and a ton of other sites that use flash and javascript you just cant access on a standard smartphone. Flash is starting to be built into phones now. How far away do you think Javascript/activeX, etc, are going to be?
No proprietary software/UI - I really don't like the idea of having anything BUT android 2.0 on the phone. Unless there are certain ones you guys really like. I've heard good things abotu the Hero software... but I think I'd rather be without it. Have read that the Behold II will be android powered but still have the samsung touchwiz OS/UI over it. Which sucks... I have used the behold and the touchwiz UI is my least favorite thing about it.
Tmobile (US) - My current provider and I doubt that will change. Phone must be compatible and preferrably supplied by tmobile. I want to ensure that EVERY feature works. I dont really like the idea of cracked phones.
Tethering and All those other features - Want to be able to use phone as 3g modem, 3g, wifi, bt, gps... did I miss any?
Camera - Decent camera... 5 MP at least... and not only that, but I want it to take quick pictures. Hopefully with an increased processor speed, I wont have the problems I've had with other camera phones. Mine take forever to take the actual picture.
Battery Life - now I know with the other things I've listed here battery life may not be huge. I'm ok with that. I don't mind charging my phone every day or 2. But I definately want to be able to amake it through a solid 24 hours of heavy use. Nonstop even.


So what do you guys think? Sounds like a dreamphone, huh? Well it is mine.

I guess the ultimate question is: How long do you think I will have to wait for something like this to come out? Is there anything else I should look for?

[cmbarry1]

Looks like you have come to the right place..as of right now your SOL for getting all of those things in one phone but with projections for next year the OS and future hardware is looking to grow rapidly...I would wait to upgrade until late Q1 of next year or Q2 everything should be running 2.1 or higher by then and the camera's/processor's should be at or past what you are looking for, Flash won't be coming until about Q2 but be patient we all have been....The battery is gonna be your only issue i fear, grab an extra on ebay and a charger that will do your phone and extra battery at one time, i have that for the G1 and it works great...Welcome to the community

[ren857]

What you want is the Droid that's on Verizon. And even that doesnt have flash support yet. That's not gonna happen to the 1st half of next year (and thats a 6-month stretch). T-Mobile may or may not have something like that in 6 months.

Actually, what you described is the next phone I would look for, even though I can do without flash support and the 5mp camera. I would throw in at least a 3.5" screen and a full qwerty keyboard with a dedicated number row (like the g1 has now).

[TheJuan]

Looks like you have come to the right place..as of right now your SOL for getting all of those things in one phone but with projections for next year the OS and future hardware is looking to grow rapidly...I would wait to upgrade until late Q1 of next year or Q2 everything should be running 2.1 or higher by then and the camera's/processor's should be at or past what you are looking for, Flash won't be coming until about Q2 but be patient we all have been....The battery is gonna be your only issue i fear, grab an extra on ebay and a charger that will do your phone and extra battery at one time, i have that for the G1 and it works great...Welcome to the community

agree! let next year start off with those 1 gig processors, u wont be disappointed cus if the freaking droid moves as fast as it does with a 600 something chip, just imagine.. and people dont sleep on sony ericsons x10, that vid we all saw is just to show that the user interface does work on the device, theyll fix those wrinkles

also this is coming in a few days to tmo, go play with the phones

link >> http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/samsung-behold-ii-hits-t-mobile-on-november-18th/

[Dendore]

Yea battery life I can get around.. 2nd battery maybe or just making sure I charge every night. I definitely want to wait for flash support. 6 months shouldnt be too hard to wait. I'm eligible for an upgrade now but Behold II isnt going to cut it for me. Droid does look nice, but I don't want the flip out keyboard. Something similar to that though. Soon enough I hope.

[djunio]

agree! let next year start off with those 1 gig processors, u wont be disappointed cus if the freaking droid moves as fast as it does with a 600 something chip, just imagine.. and people dont sleep on sony ericsons x10, that vid we all saw is just to show that the user interface does work on the device, theyll fix those wrinkles

also this is coming in a few days to tmo, go play with the phones

link >> http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/samsung-behold-ii-hits-t-mobile-on-november-18th/

I might order 2 as soon as they up for pre order if they come to tmobile

[mateo2]

There's not a smart phone on the market that can make it 24 hours of "non-stop" heavy usage. There isn't one that can make it 12 hours of heavy usage. Looks like you are looking for a perfect phone, one which doesn't exist.