Verizon takes shots at Android

[eightyfour]

one-word: Jealousy!

That they didn't took the plunge first with the Open-Source w/Google OS

& I was almost crazy enough to switch over to Verizon...once I saw how much I'd be spending more w/them I went running back to T-Mobile before I made a huge mistake.

[endmp25]

I posted a similar thread about this too.. here is the article I read when I first heard about it...
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/...ireles_21.html

I really think it's lame that they decided the only way to battle their competition is to put others down... I supose at this points they have realized their own inadequacies and instead of marketing their their own positive attributes they have resulted in the exact opposite...
I really have lost much respect for Verizon...

Oh and I wanted to point out... With a new OS and a developing marketplace... it is only a matter of time before many of the short falls will be resolved....
an example is...
Verizon says "The G1 doesn't support corporate email for MS exchange..."
Oh yeah? Are you sure about that Mr. Verizon Wireless?
take a look at this....
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=14539
(Exchange coming to Android)
What now??!??!!?? Speechless???
Like many of G1's shortfalls... many of these problems will be ratified with time... with our open source and Google's on going support of developers... it's only a matter of when...
So Mr. Verizon Wireless... Kiss my optimistic Android booty!!

[hkohistani]

Ouch, what haters!

[fhaines]

I think this list of short comings should be readdressed in say 90 days.
Verizon will be hard pressed to list anything then. Android will evolve into a OS/Interface far better and more robust than anything Verizon has.....
Did I mention that Verizon stinks. Not only their phones but their business practices.

fhaines

[mr.black]

The one VALID point they have here is turn-by-turn, BUT to get "tbt" you have to pay (as with any other decent network feature on VERIZON) out the rectum for it. I think its like an additional 14.95 a month just to even use gps on your phone, and I think you have to have data to use as well which is 59.99 for unlimited if memory serves. VERIZON charges for EVERYTHING I am surprised they dont charge monthly for the time that your phone is powered on.

[rereTHEEbeast]

they are only sayn all this kuz they got the storm
big effin whoop
its like all they fones look almost the same && all do the same things
t mobile thot outside the box && got all the love so o well
let thm think wht thy want. the writing is on the walls
ppl like G1s && some ppl dnt
&& for those who dnt [based on others biased opinions] are gonna miss out on sumthn prettayyy cool B-D

thy are out to steal future G1 buyers and make them hop on thy boat

[refused9150]

While most of this is just Verizon in-house e-mail(notice that this is a corporate e-mail to be read by sales staffs), the biggest and most valid point they have is that they offer turn-by-turn GPS while the G1 does not. Outside of this being corrected(which has already been seen by programs like AndNav, and I'm sure more in the future), they have no room to talk because their handsets are boring and too small. I like the G1 a lot more than the iPhone I had(returned after one day) because the price is right and the open community means programs will be coming and never stopping, also the devleopers walking away with 70% profit from their programs means that the prices will be cheaper than other phones with similar markets. When considering a new phone, however, Verizon wasn't even on my radar and I never even looked into them. Turn-by-turn is really all they have on the G1.

Garmin is going to be creating an app if I remember correctly. That would rule out the Turn-by-turn navigation issue.

[refused9150]

There are some legitimate points made by the e-mail/flyer - and in fairness to Verizon, T-Mobile does the exact same kind of things.

I worked for two different T-Mobile locations and we were given "competition binders" so that we knew about the other guys phones, plans and current promotions.

I dont think there is anything wrong with it.

I do wish to point out that Verizon has yet to really have that super hot "it phone" yet. They will try with the storm and have had success with their Voyager, but I love the capabilities of my G1.

We are talking about a carrier with plenty of phones attacking a single phone. Not even the entire Android platform.

[PixelHenge]

awe, man.. like THEY have room to talk about a device's limitations..haha.. I must say i was a bit dissapointed with many of the g1's shortfalls, but it beats any of verizons phones hands down on the simple fact that verizon grossly limits every handset they carry. They lock down just about every phone they have to the point where its unrecognizable, limit its capabilities, stunt its software, get rid of any features a user may utilize to get some small service for free or more conveinently, or some perk they havent figured out how to charge for - not to mention, people were paying monthly to use downloaded games what i was paying for one time only to use the game forever. Sure some of thier LG's may possibly on paper be better than the g1, but once you get the actual phone, you wouldnt even know it ater theyve butchered the software. Thier coverage may be better, but the big V still stinks as a carrier.

Not to mention, i get that theyer both cell phones and providers, but comparing anything on GSM to anything on CDMA is like apples and oranges. Verizon bashing the g1 is a moot point. They have no ground to stand on. The only people who would fall for it are likely people who are so unfamiliar with cell tech that theyd probably be better off with verizon anyway- cause they force users to hold their metiphorical hand throughout their entire contracts.

Heh, sorry.. i really hate verizon. Their advertizing and usability tactics are just as bad as apples.

[Stanovoy]

I think each and every point mentioned by Verizon is very valid as of today. Those are G1's major flaws. But the distinguishing factor is that if those were on another phone, they will be fatal. On the G1? Not so much. They can be easily corrected, just need more time.