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    i personally love android in my g1 at its evolving at a faster pace then anyone would have imagined but because htc did not want the g1 future proof so you would have to buy more of there handsets if u wanted new features. the g1 is lagging behind the times though there are work arounds thanks to root and devs but can be risky i've flashed my phone so may times its crazy was like a little mobile heaven but i see another os and a more powerful phone so its time to go on vacation from android alittle bit here is my my choice for a phone the Nokia N900
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    Fast 3G connectivity with broadband-like speeds via 900/1700/2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA. (T-mobile 3G bands)

    Integrated assisted GPS (A-GPS) receiver for navigation using the Ovi Maps application as well as for geotagging photos and accessing location services used by popular social networking sites. Switch between rich 3D, satellite and hybrid map views.

    3.5-inch touchscreen display with built-in accelerometer and 800 x 480-pixel resolution. (Learn more)

    Slide-out full QWERTY keyboard as well as virtual onscreen keyboard. Speed your typing up further with smart on-screen features and word completion.

    The Nokia N900 has 32 GB of internal storage, which is expandable up to 48 GB via optional microSD cards (up to 16 GB in size).
    Powerful Computing

    Running on the new Maemo 5 software, the Nokia N900 enables you to have dozens of application windows open and running simultaneously while taking full advantage of the cellular features, touch screen and QWERTY keyboard. Designed for computer-grade performance in a compact size, Maemo complements Nokia's other software platforms, such as Symbian, which powers Nokia's smartphones.

    The Nokia N900 packs a powerful ARM Cortex-A8 processor, up to 1GB of application memory and OpenGL ES 2.0 graphics acceleration. The result is PC-like multitasking, allowing many applications to run simultaneously. Switching between applications is simple, as all running content is constantly available through the dashboard. The panoramic home screen can be fully personalized with favorite shortcuts, widgets and applications. Thanks to the browser powered by Mozilla technology, web sites look the way they would on any computer. Online videos and interactive applications are vivid with full Adobe Flash 9.4 support. Maemo software updates happen automatically over the internet.

    Powerful 5-Megapixel Carl Zeiss Optics
    With the Carl Zeiss optics on the 5-megapixel camera, you can capture print quality photos and DVD-like quality video clips. Carl Zeiss, a world leader in high quality camera lenses, brings an award-winning legacy to the Nokia N900 with state-of-the-art optics for mobile photography and mobile video. The Zeiss name has been associated with cameras from Hasselblad, Rollei, Yashica, Sony, and Nikon.

    Tag photos with keywords to easily find them later on with a keyword cloud display, and see where your images were taken with the automatic geotagging. The camera offers an auto-focus Carl Zeiss lens with two-stage capture key, dual LED flash, and JPEG/EXIF still image file format. Other features include a full-screen viewfinder, dedicated camera key, sliding lens cover for protection and camera activation, and a photo editor. Upload your photos and videos to Ovi Share and share them online with friends and family.

    The N900 can also capture videos in a widescreen 16:9 aspect ratio at 800 x 480 pixels and 30 frames per second (fps). Additionally, the N900 includes a VGA camera on the front for use of video calling services (dependent upon carrier; additional charges applicable).

    After shooting photos and videos, you can connect the N900 to an external monitor or TV (NTSC/PAL) using the included cable, and control playback via UPNP (WLAN supported)

    Tech spec summary
    Technical Specifications

    2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100 / 900(tmobile)
    Announced 2009, August
    Status Coming soon. Exp. release 2009, November
    Size Dimensions 110.9 x 59.8 x 18 mm, 113 cc
    Weight 181 g
    Display Type TFT resistive touchscreen, 16M colors
    Size 800 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches
    - Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
    - Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
    - Full QWERTY keyboard
    Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3 ringtones
    Speakerphone Yes, with stereo speakers
    - 3.5 mm audio jack
    Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
    Call records Detailed, max 30 days
    Internal 32 GB storage, 256 MB RAM
    Card slot microSD (TransFlash), up to 16GB
    Data GPRS Class 32
    HSCSD Yes
    EDGE Class 32
    3G HSDPA, 10Mbps; HSUPA, 2Mbps
    WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, DLNA
    Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
    Infrared port Yes
    USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
    Camera Primary 5 MP, 2592x1944 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, Dual LED flash, video light
    Features Geo-tagging
    Video Yes, WVGA(848 x 480)@25fps
    Secondary Yes, VGA
    Features OS Maemo 5
    CPU ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX graphics
    Messaging SMS (threaded view), Email, Push Email, IM
    Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML, RSS feeds
    Radio Stereo FM radio (via third party software); FM transmitter
    Games Yes, Bounce, Chess, Mahjong + downloadable
    Colors Black
    GPS Yes, with A-GPS support; Ovi Maps
    Java No
    - Digital compass
    - MP3/WMA/WAV/eAAC+ music player
    - WMV/RealVideo/MP4/AVI/XviD video player
    - TV-out
    - Voice command/dial
    - Document viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
    - Photo editor
    - T9
    Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1320 mAh (BL-5J)

    this is the phone i will pick what would you guys pick? it what i always wanted to see and android be like and mabye it will be like this in android 7.0 but who knows what do u guys think i wanna hear your opinion

    N900 is now shipping
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    I agree 100%, N900 is probably my next phone. Android needs to grow up and when it does, maybe I'll check it out again. N900 works on TMo 3G, so I'm seriously circling it.

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    If you're coming from the Android world I'd suggest to think very carefully about Nokia - they are renowned for poor quality OS that take several iterations to resolve even the basic issues. Have a read up on the N97's short history. Do the research before taking the plunge into the N900 which, like the N97 before it, looks superb on paper.

    Then again, coming from the Android world, and particularly if you've been a bit of a hacker playing with different distributions of Android there will be none of that on the N900. At best you'll be limited to what is available on the OVI Store. Unofficial apps may make an appearance on the platform, but no guarantee of that.

    I used to be a Nokia die-hard, but after an exhausting experience with the N95 and later the N97 I think that I can safely say that it is unlikely that I'll use a Nokia smartphone again. Not while there are OS X and Android alternatives out there.

    My other concern would relate to the new Maemo OS - it is unproven in the wild. That and Nokia's reputation for poor quality software leaves me feeling very cold towards the product.

    To answer the OPs question - there isn't much that would make me look outside of Android (or OS X) right now. I'm very interested in the 50+ new Android handsets already announced. With faster CPU and larger memory Android will most definitely up its game in the performance stakes. And the software is maturing very nicely also what with Android 2.0 on the horizon and the number and quality of apps on the increase all of the time. Not a good time to jump ship, I'd say

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    Need to set some things straight...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hands0n View Post
    ...the N900 which, like the N97 before it, looks superb on paper.
    I would never have considered the N97, It did NOT look superb on paper due to obvious memory limitations. The N900 will NOT suffer from the same problem. Also, you're trying to compare Symbian OS phones to a Maemo OS phone, which is like comparing old Palm OS phones to a Palm Pre with WebOS. They just ain't the same animal.

    ...if you've been a bit of a hacker playing with different distributions of Android there will be none of that on the N900.
    Not true. Maemo is a more open OS than Android in several ways. There are already variations of Maemo available or in progress, such as the totally open Mer distro. Do some reading.

    At best you'll be limited to what is available on the OVI Store. Unofficial apps may make an appearance on the platform, but no guarantee of that.
    Again, not true at all. 'Unofficial' apps have been available for years. It already has a large, well established user/developer community and will have FAR more apps available than Android had when it was released.

    ...the new Maemo OS - it is unproven in the wild.
    Again, not true at all. The Maemo OS has been available 'in the wild' on internet tablets since 2005. Maemo 5, introduced on the N900, is simply the first version to include cellphone capability. It's a well-proven OS (basically Debian with a mobile UI, is Debian unproven?) that is far more tried-and-true tested than Android or WebOS were when released.

    I'm not getting an N900 for the hardware, though of course I think it's nice, with a feature set that's pretty much unmatched right now. Or because (or in spite of) it being a Nokia. It's not about getting the best hardware. State-of-the-art hardware is state-of-the-art for about 15 minutes these days anyway.

    No, I want the N900 precisely because of Maemo. To me, it's all about the OS. Maemo is the obvious next step, from mobile operating systems designed for smartphones (OS-X, Symbian, Android, Win Mobile, etc.) to a far more complete, robust OS ready for the step - from smartphones to true pocket computers. Nokia, like 'em or leave 'em, understands that's where all this is headed. In moving to Maemo for their top units, Nokia has backed a complete, highly flexible, open OS (compared to the other major mobile OSs) that is truly up to the task. More than anyone, with Maemo Nokia has positioned themselves for the future capabilities of hardware and software we haven't dreamed of yet. They're betting their (very large, the largest by far) smartphone farm on Maemo. They wouldn't bet billions on an untried OS. They may not 'win' in the end, but it won't be because Maemo isn't capable.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing Android. I like Android, I was one of the first to get a G1. Clearly, it is and will be a huge commercial success. But just as clearly, Android has some serious limitations. And to say Maemo can't stack up against OS-X or Android is just incredibly wrong. The question should be 'Can OS-X or Android stack up against Maemo?'

    The purchase of a N900 is me getting ready for the next wave.
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    iPhone 3GS.

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    The Nokia N900 has some solid features, but that tactile QWERTY would suck. Everyone complains about 4-row keypads... that thing only has 3 rows and an extremely janky key layout.

    Have fun typing on that! I will stick with other devices and be patient to see what comes out in the next 6 months
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    (not to mention the onscreen [not sure if there is one dont know much about the platform] would be unpleasant due to the resistive screen)
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    Resistive screens have come a long way. By most accounts the N900's screen is very responsive. Check out some videos. Looks very good with smooth scrolling/swiping. Plus a resistive screen offers precision with a stylus or fingernail a capacative screen can't. This will be more and more important as phones become, and are used as. true pocket computers.

    Of course the N900 has a on-screen VK. Users who have actually had a N900 in their hands have rated the HK anywhere from good to one of the best.

    Read some N900 info and reviews. Get some real knowledge before simply posting FUD.
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    I am so torn between the N900 and the Sholes, I have a very strong feeling they are both coming to Tmo for the holidays and I can get an upgrade but I think the N900 is a little to bulky along with the resistive may turn my off from it even though it is completely open source and seems responsive for a resistive screen. Just gonn have to wait for some slashgear and phone dog reviews along with other videos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hands0n View Post
    If you're coming from the Android world I'd suggest to think very carefully about Nokia - they are renowned for poor quality OS that take several iterations to resolve even the basic issues.
    Not in my hands-on experience with many Nokia smartphones over the years. They all have been superb, and put up with a ton of abuse. And none have done any of the really lame crap that Android has, like uninitiated data-roaming. Worse, my experience with some of the Android features has been lousy. To compensate, had to add apps to bring it up to ground zero. Android is the untested system, and it is lame -- as in crippled.

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